| Friday 5th June 2009 05:58am 1 |

Brad
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Hey guys, I know I might be stirring something up here, but it has
to be said. What the #@$ is up with some of the recent blogs? I
mean, before the drought of blogging (as several of us disapperared
from blogging altogether) it seemed like we were heading in a good,
positive direction. The problem, it seems, is that those of us who
wanted something positive left because we wanted something "beyond"
deconversion, as the term "de-conversion" itself is etymologically
negative. This, however, doesn't mean we have to be assholes.
Does anyone else see a sort of "backsliding" - if I may use the
term - to hack n' slash attacks on Christendom? I mean, I haven't
bothered commenting because some of the old guard have already said
it all, but I feel real disappointed (apparently not disappointed
enough because I haven't been writing myself). I don't know, is d-C
going to stick to the straw men arguments that "helped" us when we
were in our "angry" stage? Personally, I think no one needs help
with that stage, we are pretty good at it on our own. Shouldn't d-C
be a positive resource for apostates?
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| Friday 5th June 2009 03:11pm 2 |

LeoPardus
93 Posts
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100% agreement. I was thinking about making a post about it. My one
concern is that what you're decrying is almost exclusively the
effect of one person (Neece). It's obvious that she is in the
"angry stage". We also have a few other newbies who are there too.
Thing is that they need to work through it. Problem is that
attacking Christianity on the d-c site is not good. It's not what
d-c is about.
I'm thinking maybe an article put up by The De-Convert
(Roopster), perhaps coauthored or acknowledged by some of us "old
guard", would be a good idea. The article would restate our
purpose, address the current attitude you've mentioned, and call
for a cessation of attacks and a return to the status of positive
resource that we want.
Thoughts?
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| Friday 5th June 2009 05:51pm 3 |

orDover
68 Posts
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The worst side-effect of the "angry" posts, in my opinion, is the
equally angry comments they attract. And as Brad mentioned, they
tend to reduce to little more than strawmen, which make it easy
fodder for the righteous Christian. I've always felt the posts of
my that are the most successful are those that attract mainly
positive comments from fellow de-Converts. It seems to me that if a
blog post opens itself up to a multitude of Christian comments, it
has too many holes.
For what it's worth, if a lack of posts is a problem, I have a few
on my blog that I think could help. I did a few that deal with
common misconceptions of atheism which focus on spinning atheism in
a positive light. I haven't been actively pushing my own posts, but
I do have several that seem de-Con worthy.
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| Friday 5th June 2009 10:19pm 4 |

LeoPardus
93 Posts
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This slight modification from something I wrote a while back (in
response to a troll infestation at the time) might give a good
start to bringing the attack attitude under control.
"The purpose of the de-Conversion site is to be a resource for
skeptical, de-converting or former Christians. We are intended to
be a community where people can discuss the struggles, reasons,
memoirs, concerns, etc. of those are going through, or have gone
through the process of leaving, losing, or doubting the
faith."
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| Friday 5th June 2009 10:35pm 5 |

Brad
7 Posts
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Leo, I think such a post would be a good idea. Linking to some
older posts throughout that deal with the subject could also be
useful. D-C has come a long way in the short time it has been
alive, it would be a shame to wallow in the frustration of
de-conversion.
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| Friday 5th June 2009 10:56pm 6 |

orDover
68 Posts
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I think a post like that would be good. I think the distinction
needs to be made between tearing down religion for the sake of
tearing it down and explaining what faults we found with religion
that led to our de-conversions. The tone of the two are very
different, even if the content tends to overlap.
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| Friday 30th October 2009 08:37pm 7 |

Infidel
86 Posts
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Hey all,
I read what you discussed here and I think it has passed.
As you know, I am a newbie here and one of the reasons I hang out
here is because of the support and encouragement I get from you
guys.
My only complaint is lack of activity in general. There are many
times I log in and the "people online" thingy says that no one else
is on. That being said though, I can't imagine that there are many
people willing to admit that they feel they way we do/did, so they
suffer in silence. I mean we have all remarked on how we had no one
to talk to, so WE suffered in silence.
Until d-C came along! Thanks d-C!
I just hope others get the courage at least do what I did and
google (uh, I don't remember what I googled!) and find this site.
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| Saturday 31st October 2009 01:23am 8 |

LeoPardus
93 Posts
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Thanks Warning. We are sort of a small community in the world. Most
folks just want to comfortably believe in something. We're willing
to be uncomfortable.
I too am glad for d-C. Only with the web could we find others of
such uncommon ilk.
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